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[Dany]

Ok, IMO there is a big problem that usually occurs on alot of games on XP. Four people in the opposite team goes ff when the winning team is pushing or are going to push.
This usually makes the winning team to relax in their gamestyle and dont rush the pushes as fast. I think there has to be set a point sooner or later to stop this behaviour because why is there a rule that sais that you have to ask whole team before ffing?(atleast i think there is)
A clear occurans of this thing happened today in my add1 xp game that i played. We are dominating the other team pretty much through the whole game and when we are about to push they do the "fake ff" with 4 of them ffing but the last one say nothing. So our team starts typing GG WP etc in ally chat, thus also stop the push since we thought they ff.
This made us loose the game imo since mentally people start to relax etc wich means they play less good and all that comes with that.


I think we need to do something about this problem because it happends almost every game. I think we as players need to start doing banrequests when people type FF all the time in allchat even tough they are joking or whatever in order to make it stop.

anyways here is the replay of the game, if u watch it i think u will see that we changed our gamestyle when their team ff and that makes us loose the game.

http://hotfile.com/dl/20033105/b1aaedf/LastReplay.w3g.html

[Flipp]

Easy solution: Learn to count to 5 and dont stop playing serious until throne is down OR all 5 of them ffed.

Is it their fault you stop playing serious?

[Dany]

Easy solution: Learn to count to 5 and dont stop playing serious until throne is down OR all 5 of them ffed.

Is it their fault you stop playing serious?

I dont think its as easy as that.. You obviously know nothing about pshycology thank you for the great post!

[Flipp]

But you know a lot about psychology?

Dont give me that crap "uh its so hard to keep playing serious if 4 of them type two letters in allchat", that is just not true. Would you stop playing serious if they did this at minute 1 with 0:0 in kills? Because than I would do that all the time -.-

YOUR TEAM lost the game because YOUR TEAM was overconfident and thought it was allready won. I would assume that they didnt want to fool you into believing this but that they merely had some kind of misscommunication in their team. Even if they wanted to "fool" you, LEARN TO COUNT TO 5 and the problem is completely fixed. Technically you can allready banrequest them for "not ffing with 5 in allchat" I guess but well... I dont think they will be banned for writing "ff" once in allchat, its just a minor misscomunication in their team and entirely your teams fault to stop playing serious. If I am in your position I usually spam teamchat "not over not over only 4" and its fixed. As I said before: LEARN TO COUNT TO 5!

[racer]

I get what you are saying and I understand the issue. However, if you 'stop' playing serious after they write ff that is non-the-less noone elses fault but your own. Maybe they had better lategame heroes, maybe someone carried, maybe you died due to lag, maybe the cat was running on keyborad or maybe you stopped playing.

The big issue however is people giving up and starts to write 'ff' and stop playing, going 'suiciding' having a bad attitude and whatnot. I've been in several games where we have been outplayed and are down 20kills after 15minutes, where people actually starts to complain and go 'ff this is over zzz'. But after a while of turtling and decent teamfights we could turn the game over and win.

Giving up is not banable, it's extremely annoying however to have whiners/complainers on your team. Threatening with banning people here shouldn't solve the problem, but higher common sense and better attitude propably would.

[Jesstess]

As far as i know it's banable to go ff without consulting all 5 players.

[Voozy]

Yes, something has to be done regarding this rule. It just pisses me off so bad when it happens that i even was banned for manners coz of this shit.

[CrackAttack]

Easy solution: Learn to count to 5 and dont stop playing serious until throne is down OR all 5 of them ffed.

Is it their fault you stop playing serious?

+1 for just play the game serious till the end and learn to count till 5^^.

+1 ban them for ffing in allchat without the whole team.

[BoundToViolence]

Easy solution: Learn to count to 5 and dont stop playing serious until throne is down OR all 5 of them ffed.

Is it their fault you stop playing serious?

+1 for just play the game serious till the end and learn to count till 5^^.

+1 ban them for ffing in allchat without the whole team.

imo it shouldnt be bannable(atleast if they just write it once) because sometimes i ask my team if we want to FF and if 3 people agree i usually write ff in allchat because i either havent realized that one didnt say something or because i thought he would ff too. I can understand that some people stop playing 100% serious after they saw FF but as it is already mentioned in the thread you can just count and keep playing then.

[Foadon]

the rule is not made for 4ppl ffing and 5th not, it was made for people spamming FF whenever they died during a game and dindt like to play anymore, aka, FF as a term of whine.


as for this case, own fault really, had it happen in hon today, owned early and mid, started fucking around with weird items, he survived, bought doombringer and i got owned xD

[Cip]

Psychology that you mention should work both way doesn't it? Just how you "relaxed" and lost, their ff on all chat was because they already thought they lost and were morally down. Maybe even raged at the 5th guy who.. as many times happen.. was right all along. But from 2 teams who left guard down.. they recovered faster.

[Dany]

Ye ofc i know we did leave our guard down, but yeah now when i have thought about it again and read that the rule is just to stop random spammers ill live with it. But as you said cip that they where the better team, that was wrong imo. We just stopped playing and didnt push so we lost the game. :)