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[BaBaUTZ]

- Drop before 15 min = remake ONCE with same players:
  ** If no first blood - remake with -ap (same heroes to same players)
  ** If first blood already made - remake with the mode you added for (rd or cm)


So lets say u outpick the enemy, everything runs just fine, ur team does fb and suddenly someone drops at the 14 minute mark. According to the rules u have to remake with the mode being cm/rd instead of ap.
I dont understand the sense of this rule. Picks are an important factor of the game, and i had several situations now, in that a member of the outpicked team surprisingly "drops", and their team gets a way better start in the remake. Shouldnt remake be -ap, regardless of the fact, that fb was made or not?

[LaGuNaB]

Think it should be ap no matter what

[luck3r]

Think it should be ap no matter what

same opinion

[Kalb]

i think the 15 minutes counter is to high.
after 15 minutes a game can already be predecided in some way. I think it should be dropped down a bit, to lets say 10 minutes.

The rule, as it is, is to abusable.

[Cip]

After players KNOW what happened with picks (lanes, spells, items, strategy, etc) picking same again will only predict for the ones that lost momentum. First blood would not happen in same situation, lanes will not be the same, etc. If you picked so good first time, how about pick again.

[LaGuNaB]

If you change that it should be ap only, same lanes would also have to be added

Ofc first blood wouldnt be the same, dont see what it has to do with it. Even if you lane the same, the game will never be the same

[ORGi69]

i agree with cip here

cm/rd again might be a bit frustrating for the dominating team, but when u are that far in a game ie. after fb etc. and someone drops out
it is the only fair method to start a new game... and u just have to think:
u dominated them once..sure u can do it this time again, they are still the same players
  

[BaBaUTZ]

Some captains just dont do the same mistakes over and over again

+ in rd u get a different pool

[para1]

cm/rd again might be a bit frustrating for the dominating team, but when u are that far in a game ie. after fb etc. and someone drops out{

well what is more frustrating? a) NOT dominating that hard after same picks and lanes again, or
                               b) getting outpicked and dominated by some bad luck or whatsoever?

i agree with lagunab here: rmk with ap - get same lanes.
even if fb woudnt be the same, your lane-domination will be,

or even better maybe: if player drops AFTER fb- let the "leading" team decide what to do - either rmk with same heros and lane, or new cm/rd.

[adi_hsd]

i gotta agree that if u get badly outpicked a new cm/rd may be in your favor. if u get push team against 0 aoe u win every time no matter how good your enemy prepares itself. you may not get FB, or win lane like u did but the game outcome is likely the same.

[r0b]

Had this situation 3 times already. Suddenly someone drops around 13-14 Min after outpick and like 0-10 already. Just a remake with AP should be fine in this case.

[GodOfBalloons]

Had this situation 3 times already. Suddenly someone drops around 13-14 Min after outpick and like 0-10 already. Just a remake with AP should be fine in this case.

+1

[voodoo112]

ap in any case

my argumentation is the same as above

[spraylogo]

i agree with both. dropping in 14min after 7-8min pick and 5min in game lobby sucks.Then all again have to rejoin again cm takes time etc. I would say lower the limit to 7-9minutes, but keep the remake rd/cm

[exi]

If you change that it should be ap only, same lanes would also have to be added

Ofc first blood wouldnt be the same, dont see what it has to do with it. Even if you lane the same, the game will never be the same

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it should be no matter if it was fb or not -ap with same lanes (/ items) in the first 15 mins