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« on: December 30, 2008, 12:47:17 pm »

y.. was just wondering how bad can a player who play in XP be before we remove him?..

like asking if he should do BKB on luna vs Chaos knight, lion, levi, leshrack and DK.

As you see there is 5 stunners and 1 of them who got hex plus that chaos knight can get a 4 second stun.
ohh dont forget levi who stun our whole team for 2,5 seconds...

Shouldnt a player in XP know when he should do a BKB or not?
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 01:01:31 pm »

I'm not able to judge in this situation, but I can give my personal oppinion, as I am rather new in xp.

Now, I don't see the problem in this case. People are constanly bitching and flaming in game, so I'd rather ask the team what they would want, before doing this. Yes ofc. it make sense to make bkb here, but come on... What's the harm in asking?
You could just say yes, then case solved, no need to bitch about it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 01:02:05 pm »

Better to ask than not?
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 01:07:43 pm »

Sure if there was another line upp with not so many disable but comeone... with 5 disable and 3-4 of them super disablers.. it must be obviouse for anyone to make bkb?

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 01:09:23 pm »

It should be obvious. But your thread is about how bad a player must be before remove? Your not bad skillwise because you ask what item to make :) - It takes the better known players 1 second to answer "Yes, you should, look at all the disable they have".....
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 01:12:03 pm »

On the other hand - who is this so called bad player? Post replay? Might be easier to judge then if he is to bad to stay.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 01:20:43 pm »

I'd rather see 10 "obvious" questions than 1 poor build.
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 01:30:49 pm »

tbh a good player should always know when to do BKB specially when you are the only carry.
Sure there is tactic items to buy and the cap can tell you what to buy for this tactic. But in this case it was so obviouse. I dont want to give out any names cause i dont want to attack the player but sometimes i get angry when he want to play the carry and doesnt know what to buy! autoattacking creeps! and argumenting that the other team isnt focusing him thats why he shouldnt buy BKB. Is just to much sometimes.

Ok... but if after the game still say BKB wasnt needed i never got stunned! DUH!! maybe cause you made the goddamn BKB!
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 03:47:09 pm »

and if u ask bkb yes/no and your captain said no - u can flame him   smiley-channel_de_teufel062
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 04:05:28 pm »

"tbh a good player should always know when to do BKB specially when you are the only carry."

dotapickup.xp is not about good players, you didn't know that?
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2008, 04:20:00 pm »

I'd rather see 10 "obvious" questions than 1 poor build.
this, better safe than sorry )
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 03:44:08 pm »

Where is the problem with these questions? I think it is much more important that a player shows micro skills like lasthitting or placing the right spells at the right time plus showing some tactical understanding and teamplay. Things that might be obvious for you are not obvious for others. So asking does not point out a bad player in my opinion.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 06:51:52 pm »

Cut the emo shit, maybe just answer him instead of whining on the forums.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2009, 03:08:58 pm »

The problem is to find common guidelines for removal.
Every case is more or less uniqe and admins need to look into each and every single one of them before making a fair decision.

This will always be a problem imo. the best way is to report everytime, if you think a player is not suitable for XP check the forums for a tread and speak your mind to let admins know what you think.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2009, 03:53:27 pm »

The problem is that there are differences in opinions when it comes to building heroes and what items to get in certain situations.
A general guideline would be if a player's opinion differed from the commonly accepted builds or when he is clueless when it comes to these. In that case he is clearly not experienced and shouldn't be playing in xp. If you can't comfortably play 50-70 heroes (meaning you understand what your role is and act accordingly, aswell as getting the right items)  then it's a big problem.
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