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« on: December 15, 2008, 06:40:47 pm »

Don't know which forum thread i should add this in but I post it here.

Just had this game http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/79876/index.html when we went early stab team.

In 17 min we had 18-2 in killstats and then the host drops, probably out of rage cause TB fed overall (watch the timing). Skovhugzer is usually good player and host so I don't really want him banned, but what to do when you get your good game ruined like this and no winrequest since more than 2 dropped in one team? If anyone else dropped they would just had ff but this time they dodged everything.

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2008, 06:45:59 pm »

had the same yesterday also. we were winning 28-10 and the host dropped. Also one of our team and one of the enemys dropped. The host got banned and made a unbanreq. as you can see under http://www.dotapickup.net/forum/index.php/topic,38745.msg231012.html#msg231012. We also had a sure win and could do nothing. ;/
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2008, 06:52:45 pm »

Hm its pretty unfair though, but I think u cant change the rules in: If host drops, there will be a winrequest and Xp-gain. The only thing u could do is the hated banrequest  wink
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2008, 07:11:27 pm »

there is something similar here http://www.dotapickup.net/forum/index.php/topic,38021.0.html
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 01:15:10 am »

Maybe Cip could add an XP penalty to an host disc that ruins a game. Based on replay the admin in charge could ban and penalize host leaver with xp only if he judges game was a clear win for opponent side.

Just an idea =)
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 01:22:02 am »

Maybe Cip could add an XP penalty to an host disc that ruins a game. Based on replay the admin in charge could ban and penalize host leaver with xp only if he judges game was a clear win for opponent side.

Just an idea =)

who would want to host then, if you get extra penalty for hosting and then dropping? drops can accour where its not your fault.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 01:51:59 am »

Agree with above :)
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 02:10:42 am »

so this is an official banrequest or what do you want to achieve.
the rules on this matter are quite clear, that you wont get any XP from this game.

i cant really get the idea behind this thread. either u banreq him or live with it...
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2008, 03:12:07 am »

The idea is if you could get xp from a game that have been won regardless if they drop 2-3 or host drops?
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2008, 03:17:08 am »

The idea is if you could get xp from a game that have been won regardless if they drop 2-3 or host drops?
this happened 2 times i guess, and many people complained and whined about it, so we decided to not give out points for "probably would have won" games anymore in general.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2008, 06:16:42 am »

Imo we should change the rule. If after 15min 1 or more drops you are free to ff. Thatīs it. I played 2 games yesterday that got ruined after me and my team played flawlessly and owning the other team. It just feels so bad since the people in .xp are more tight. You almost know everyone so you donīt really wanna banreQuest. But still you donīt want to have wasted the game you just played so good and not get rewarded for it.

One is the game Elare mentioned the other is:
http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/79784/index.html
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/3/12/14/f_wc3scrnshotm_3464cf1.jpg
in this game 3 even had stated ff:ed in all-chat and were in a discussion with their team mates to have everyone ff. But instead Meh`(the one who didnīt want to ff) drops(he was host so me and zoolie drops with him) which was really suspicious and irritating to say the least. I wouldnīt have banned since I usually enjoy playing with him but Iīm actually glad someone else did. Wouldnīt it be better to give him -XX xp points instead of baning him tho? You would be surveyed and excluded from .xp for many rageQuits anyway. Now they can just "DC" and unban themselves.

Hopefully I made myself somewhat understood  smiley-channel_de_froehlich008

And yes Iīm actually also irritated that I got 45 less xp than I should have, not on Top 40 anymore  smiley-channel_de_traurig015
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 07:55:31 pm »

Maybe Cip could add an XP penalty to an host disc that ruins a game. Based on replay the admin in charge could ban and penalize host leaver with xp only if he judges game was a clear win for opponent side.

Just an idea =)

who would want to host then, if you get extra penalty for hosting and then dropping? drops can accour where its not your fault.

Well. Admin in charge could ban and penalize. It doesn't mean it should be something sure and granted, hence the "based on replay" part.
Anyway nevermind :)
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