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[FortheAlliance]

W00ki3 is ~sean@sEAN-.users.quakenet.org * sean

geezer- is ~lqmmel@NoCopy.users.quakenet.org *  GeezerfuQ

Replay: http://www.fileuploadx.de/683454

It was about to pick our heroes. Neither Lyca or Omni were banned this game. The team said i have to pick omni. I said i cant play him well. I asked for swap, nobody wanted to swap. Then watch the chatlog for first5 5min of replay. Here only the flames:

Chatlog:

1:12: Geezer: Pick omni or i ban u (Ordering me)

I asked why they dont play him, np for me to swap.

1:12 W00kie: cus i'm cap, you r random (flaming me)

After this provocation i picked Lyca, and he said:

1:22"SURVEILLANCE PLS, he's idiot" (flaming me)

1:29: Geezer gg ff (it's not allowed to ff under 40min)

2:03 Wookie: Support the surveillance pls (because i dont take orders?)

Game goes on and they dont stop to flame and insult me like:

3:04 We ha have lyca we will own,np

After 8mins of flaming finally one player supported me:

08:12 Eight wonder: plz let him play, he's already stressed by u guys.


What is going on in Dota.xp?

I can't understand why u get flamed and insulted nearly EVERY game. It doenst even matter if u fail or not. There are many "friends" playing togehter, like in this case. If u dont do what they say, they start flaming on you, they make u play bad or making mistakes because they dont stop harassing in chat. Its NO FUN IF 3+ PLAYERS FLAME YOU ENTIRE GAME FOR DOING NOTHING WRONG.

If they wanted omni SO much in this team, why did nobody said "ok i take it"?

I really hope attitude of some guys change in this channel. Its getting annoying now, that u cant have a nice game anymore. Always one guy is the black sheep, and there is no reason to flame me 8min for picking a usually banned hero. You cant order ppl to pick a hero they simply dont want to/can't play when u dont want to swap.

And if player's dont do what some guys want, that means u get flamed for the rest of the game? I didnt fail with Lyca in this game, i had 6/1 and over 15 assistance. Why the hell the flames instead of SUPPORT?

Think about your attitude.

Over.

p.s:

02:03 Geezer: the fuck cares about putting this online.

Let the "fuck" decide.

[Stanis]

Please upload replay at http://www.dota-allstars.com/index.php

[FortheAlliance]

http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/74155/index.html

This is the chatlog from the other team. I couldnt upload the replay with my chatlog there...

http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unavngivetdi2.jpg and screen from end.

[RainWalker]

Hahaha again the fabled omni knight game ! Man this was such a bad game, ur pick was awful, but ur a good player i've seen u play before and u play pretty nice. Lycan pick was awful in that game though u only won because our team played like crap, and omni bellow that though. They shudn't flame u ALOT but u shudn't do awful picks as well. To be really honest your pick should have lost you the game and it only didn't because bottom lane failed horribly. Even if the hero is banned in most games (which i don't agree with) it doesn't mean that the hero is good in all matchups, lycan needs strong lanes to take care of his 20 minutes farm in forest at the start had our lane won as it was supposed to you would have lost that game miserably against the omniknight with lycan.

[MrMojo]

If someone would have picked lycan over omni when i was ingame, you can be sure that this would make me rage and be mad about you too.
I agree with W00ki3: this surveillance hurts you more than W00ki3 or lqmmel

Everyone takes orders once and then, i do, others do as well.

After this provocation i picked Lyca, and he said:

Best comment ive read so far.

[Fer0th]

haha, i remember a game where wookie said visage sucks, although enemies had luna, lich + ES ":)"
and he picked meepo himself... didn't really matter because the enemies sucked somehow but don't always pick blindly what wookie says!

omni would have been the imba choice here tho, but this is not worth a surveillance imo..!

regards

[W00ki3]

ROOOFL!

First of all, u didnt ask us why WE didnt play him, did you?
Second. Lycan isnt that strong anymore - i told you aswell. And xp is not about "i wanna play invoker - so u pick invoker"! Its a teamgame, so all 5 pick a hero, after that u can swap around. I even recon someone saying he could play omni ?

Im not sure if you know it, but lycan WAS a bad pick. And your WHOLE team told you not to pick him. - But you did anyways? This surveillance hurts you even more than on me. :)

Fer0th - No i did not pick meepo vs luna lich ES that woul be mentally idiotic. And it was not only me that said pick omni... so.

[W00ki3]

Btw, in .XP i play to win.

In .euro i play to have fun. So yeah, i care about matchup :D. Also next time pick him, im sure SOMEONE would swap if u say you cant play omni. You even said you never played omni before!??!?!?!? Thats a lie - ban him for lying. OR play the omni, you "apparently" suck at, it makes you better?

please paste the whole chatlog instead of only those things.. :)

[FortheAlliance]

If someone would have picked lycan over omni when i was ingame, you can be sure that this would make me rage and be mad about you too.
I agree with W00ki3: this surveillance hurts you more than W00ki3 or lqmmel

Everyone takes orders once and then, i do, others do as well.

After this provocation i picked Lyca, and he said:

Best comment ive read so far.

Thats comment shows that u didnt watched the replay. Since we discussed for lyca as other option. There were not many other good pick options, we even picked sniper after we had 3 carry alrdy.

[Cip]

Players SHOULDN'T be forced to play any hero captain tries to force it up his ass. That's not why I made captains. This is not -cm or clan war. There is still 5vs5 euro guys more or less.

But on other hand, I pick lion 2 times in 1 day because captain wanted, even tho i MEGAFUCKINGSUCK with him. Ofc i ended with 4 bracers and bots but bought 16 wards and did my best. In time i'm sure I'll understand how to play that stupid hero :) I kinda trust players with more experience then me in 5vs5 picks. And i do my best even tho i could say "gtfo, im admin I pick what i want!!". That won't solve shit. Maybe first u pick, and if nobody wants to swap even after u warned them ur kinda bad omni, then at least u do ur best and expect them to be kinda quiet AFTER that because they already know they will give omni to a bad omni player.

I don't agree with them mocking u, but there werent too much out of line either. Try to listen to ur team overall, even tho u suck. How else to improve ur gameplay if u never play omni?

Surveillance denied. THis doesn't mean Lqmmel or Wookie are free to flame anyone who don't agree with them. I'm still eyes and ears on them, and they know it. So I assure u, they won't do stupid things more then some whine.

[W00ki3]

Thats comment shows that u didnt watched the replay. Since we discussed for lyca as other option. There were not many other good pick options, we even picked sniper after we had 3 carry alrdy.

we picked sniper cus we had no ranged, but okay mate! =)

[W00ki3]

Players SHOULDN'T be forced to play any hero captain tries to force it up his ass. That's not why I made captains. This is not -cm or clan war. There is still 5vs5 euro guys more or less.

True.

but then again. Captains, often firstpicks ES or TIDE - i would never volounteer to playone of those heroes mysef. But HEY - if none wanna swap guess who i play??? So mr. alliance, tbh u dont fit in this channel if u only can play heroes u like. And telling us, "Ive never played omni, i suck with him!" is a bullshit lie.

[FortheAlliance]

Yes exactly what does this have to do with my comment?

Even if i dont pick Lyca, there were not many other ranged options or other good heroes.
Lyca was the best choice if u dont pick omni.

And CIP.

My Experience is: If ppl get forced to play a hero, and they fail...They get flamed at the end of the game. I had  about 30 games were ppl got flamed EVEN as they said they cant play that hero. They got flamed entire game.

On the other hand my experience as cap: Let ppl play heroes they CAN play and they will do 10 times better as with picking "the best pick" in pool.


@ Wookie: I can play ANY hero except for omni, because i have no experience  with him since he is BANNED nearly  every game. I said that ingame too. Do u even listen what i say ?

I could have swapped with ALL others heroes, but YOU all refused to take omni, so dont blame me FFS.

[RainWalker]

Even though certain people will do better with certain picks the picks still have to make some sense or we'll end up having PA PL TROLL teams which is not so cool now is it?

[W00ki3]

@ Wookie: I can play ANY hero except for omni, because i have no experience  with him since he is BANNED nearly  every game. I said that ingame too. Do u even listen what i say ?

And lycan aint haha :D? Lycan is more banned that omni in any dota channel. Oh come on, if ur EXPERIENCED, then LEARN to play the damn hero.

And im not a flamer tbh, im sure everyone in that team would guide you through him, or swap you. Since omni is a pretty important hero.