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[Elaakh]

I just played a .xp game

my lane companion thought i made a bad move, where wherein he announces: "ur dumb"

with this insult referring to my playing skills i trashtalk right back at him

saying i can play just as "crappy" as i like, him answering "we'll see about that".

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In prior to this event... During picks we're talking about how long time it takes for hero-picks to be made

and Cip keeps announcing sentences like 'there will definitely gonna be a change about the pausing during

picks" so i ask him "are you admin, Cip?" he answers "no - but i got relations :)"

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No other personal conflicts (the team were lossing and flaming were made all over) other than this one

were made between me and any other player during this game.

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Minutes after the game ends i get kicked out of .xp channel ...

* You were kicked from #dotapickup.xp by PickupGuard (Banned: you have been excluded from dotapickup.xp)

without any further explanations

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It is quite obvious what has happened here:

Cip having a bad beat after this game releasing his frustration on me resulting in me getting excluded from

.xp channel.

No banrequest. No nothing.



for exact chatlog have a look at the replay

here is the replay: http://rapidshare.com/files/156165958/Cip_1337_.w3g.html



Please investigate this matter. Thank you.

/Elaakh

[R3eaPer]

upload it to

- http://www.axlrod.dk/banupload/upload.php
- (dota-allstars site)

for a visible chatlog.

[Demons-Loan]

Whos that mysterious companion of yours?

[oloindafolo]

it is quite obvious what has happened here:

Cip having a bad beat after this game releasing his frustration on me resulting in me getting excluded from

.xp channel.

No banrequest. No nothing.

This attitude will surely help.

Besides that:

Do not expect democratic vote or detailed explanations on why kicked. Everyone must understand we select players that fit best our needs and ideology.

[Nikash]

You behave well only when admin ingame?

[GladiusZ]

Regardless of what led up to the ban, he at least deserves an explanation. How can you ever make up for a mistake if you don't know what you have done wrong?

[Elaakh]

You behave well only when admin ingame?

no - i try to be consistent with my behaviour whether it is an admin or a "random" player

the fact that i asked if he were an admin had to do with implementing changes about rules, pausing during

making picks.

[Elaakh]

upload it to

- http://www.axlrod.dk/banupload/upload.php
- (dota-allstars site)

for a visible chatlog.

I uploaded the replay to the link above, hope it's working now

[Elaakh]

Whos that mysterious companion of yours?

If i didnt mention the player - it was Cip[1337]

[zzark]

I uploaded the replay to the link above, hope it's working now

Wheres the url?

Fyi. Cip is owner of dotapickup.xp

And if he thinks you dont fit, then you dont! An explanation in banmsg would be nice, but not needed though..

[Elaakh]

I uploaded the replay to the link above, hope it's working now

Wheres the url?

Fyi. Cip is owner of dotapickup.xp

And if he thinks you dont fit, then you dont! An explanation in banmsg would be nice, but not needed though..

If Cip is owner of dotapickup i guess this investigation doesn't realy matter. I guess i should have taken his insult like someone who doesnt stand up for himslef and appologized like an obedient underdog..

See you..

[Cip]

upload it to

- http://www.axlrod.dk/banupload/upload.php
- (dota-allstars site)

for a visible chatlog.

I uploaded the replay to the link above, hope it's working now

YE its workign alrite! Too bad u didn't give link....  

You are banned because:
1. You move and behave absolutely noob-ish. You had eye, u see jugger coming from forest.. i ping, i go back.... u remain and die ofc. Then say "no boots and still kills me"... lol
2. Then again u move around weird, don't look map or eyes... fail. I said stop sucking!!
3. YOu answer something like "omg stop whine, shut up, i can suck as much as I want here"
4. LOL!! The first kick msg was soemthing like "No, you cant suck as much as u want on euro. Attitude"

Tada?

And btw... when u asked if i'm admin i said as a joke "i have relations".... too bad u didn't get it. OTherwise u would have behaved???? Hahaha...

Too bad for u. U suck and u have attitude... xp is not for u.

If Cip is owner of dotapickup i guess this investigation doesn't realy matter. I guess i should have taken his insult like someone who doesnt stand up for himslef and appologized like an obedient underdog..

See you..

Unlike euro, on xp i don't ban if someone say i suck when i suck, or call me dumb, noob etc... I know when i die like idiot. But on xp i ban for crap play, pugna with no items, wards put near my eyes on all map, drain life on spinning jugger... and the whole crap game u made and attitude... attitude even from ur last post. "obedient underdog"... pff... u act like u know me.. but u dont.

[PlusEins]

I watched till 5 mins, enough for me. Bad behaviour: ignoring tips from an Admin and answering with blabla is really ...

My tip for you: dont react to tips of other players and persons repellant, gain them gladly and very open!

[Elaakh]

I watched till 5 mins, enough for me. Bad behaviour: ignoring tips from an Admin and answering with blabla is really ...

My tip for you: dont react to tips of other players and persons repellant, gain them gladly and very open!

leading constructive criticism with an insult is has always been a good first step in succesfull communication

[Elaakh]

1. You move and behave absolutely noob-ish. You had eye, u see jugger coming from forest.. i ping, i go back.... u remain and die ofc. Then say "no boots and still kills me"... lol
2. Then again u move around weird, don't look map or eyes... fail. I said stop sucking!!
3. YOu answer something like "omg stop whine, shut up, i can suck as much as I want here"
4. LOL!! The first kick msg was soemthing like "No, you cant suck as much as u want on euro. Attitude"

I made a poor play - no argue

I play .xp because it has slightly better players than .euro does and because .XP is more team oriented.
however, .xp is still a "fun" way of dota, no ventrilio , no real skill requirements etc, no roles as carry, support ( support-heros getting wards, chicken etc) it is more up to everyone how they want to play. and yes - this goes for them playing in the .xp channel aswell. (i still think dotapickup is a good alternative of casual playing) My point is - when i play at dotapickup i play for fun, not trying to meat up to some requirements that doesnt exist on the skill level of playing.

so there is no need to trashtalk my playing skills. the only req. in .xp is pretty much "dont be a retard"

i dont mean to attack you Cip in any way by saying this, only to make a point. You know teammates weren't realy happy with ur contribution to the game aswell. Flaming was going back and forth. So don't talk about playing skills please. It's a matter of taste. You thought i sucked. Rexxar thought you sucked. I thought rexxar sucked. etc. However, i still understand what level of playing we are at. So i feel no need to trashtalk people about their playing skills.

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I act rude, when people are rude to me. Which was this case. YOU were the one started insulting ME. And naturally trashtalk creates more trashtalk.

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p.s. this is not an attempt to regain access do pickup.. just making a point d.s.

/Elaakh