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[R0CKY]

Hey,

I tought about this a bit.
I think the .xp Channel don't need FF,
what do you think?
Every .xp Player should now when it's time to push and when it's prolong, .xp Games should make more Fun and more interesting Games ;p so i think there should be no FF.


Tell me your Opinion.


Greetings R0CKY.

[iZZ]

havent made enuf games in or with xp to cast my vote here.

but my thoughts are: your idea is right, but the reality is different.. keep FF enabled and those "good players" which u described won't use it when it's not needed..

[Scanlan]

Hoping that we could have no FF and no prolong rule in .xp would be the best. Unfortunately, having 500+ game doesn't necessarily make you a more mature, more fair player. Hence i don't know.

I don't like FF but i don't think 60 min FF is better than 50. I prefer prolong, but i do think it would bring too much complicated change (2 rulesets, prolong is back) unless.... WE REMOVE FF AND PUT PROLONG INSTEAD :). But i do not think that's what community wants unfortunately :p.

So, not voting...

[Snuffeldjuret]

"Every .xp Player should now when it's time to push and when it's prolong, .xp Games should make more Fun and more interesting Games ;p so i think there should be no FF."

I think they should know even more when to FF and to not. Even, even more they should be mannered enough to never ff unless the opponents are prolonging or they will lose the gme for sure, but not in a few mintues, but more like 20 minutes =).

[Andagod]

Hey,

I tought about this a bit.
I think the .xp Channel don't need FF,
what do you think?
Every .xp Player should now when it's time to push and when it's prolong, .xp Games should make more Fun and more interesting Games ;p so i think there should be no FF.


Tell me your Opinion.


Greetings R0CKY.

Snuffeldjuret said it all. Still I cant stay out ofc.

I guess you want to rid of ff because you are afraid that people will do "wrong" ff's in the xp channel. Well those same people who will do "wrong" ff, would be the ones prolonging if the rule of ff was not there.

[ilovetemplar]

I think the rules should be somewhat the same in both .xp .euro. most games i play is ending between 40-50 mins, and those who last longer usually gets played to end. Ofcourse a few games will be FF'd, and thats why we have the FF rule i guess:)

[Zoolander]

I don't like the FF rule

[napol]

again there's two sides of the ff rule, mostly it always "forces" the winning team to push earlier than they would without the rule - preventing unnecessary prolonging.
and then there's the cases of intense battles, with one team having slighty bigger odds of losing, and ff right when the 50min mark is breached.

so back to the: Every .xp Player should now when it's time to push and when it's prolong, .xp Games should make more Fun and more interesting Games ;p so i think there should be no FF.
Snuffeldjuret really said it all very nicely, every .xp player should know when it's time to ff and when it's not.
they should have the choice just like .euro does imo

[moi-]

I guess that the FF rule is much better than the prolong rule. FF means forfeit which means that the opposant team wins the game. I agree that people often think it is lost when it is not but if it is their choice, then it's ok. Of course you can lose the pleasure of intensive 5v5 battles, where every move is important but being able to ff is imho a part of freedom. Now you can be a loser and forgive when the odds are little or be a winner (even if you lose the game) trying to fight until the end.

[Gottwurm]

theres either some prolonging rule or ff.

all humans tend to behave like stupid xxxxxxxx and xxxxxxxxx when in a position of power over others.
u shouldnt encourage that if u dont have to.

[GladiusZ]

I think we should keep it as it is. Not because it's needed in the .xp games, but I think the same rules should apply in all channels. I do agree with Gottwurm regarding that when in power positions people tend to be more disrepectful and cocky. Therefor we need some sort of ff/prolong. Since ff is used in all other channels so should it in xp.

[NTeC]

introduce auto-ff if there are more than 3 agi heroes in the same team

[adone]

I'd love to see the FF rule get thrown to hell on all channels.. Simply add the prolong rule again, saying you can ask for prolong at min 45, then the opposing team HAVE to 5 man push within the next 5 mins.. The FF rule suck, even when on the loosing team.

[aegd]

I'd love to see the FF rule get thrown to hell on all channels.. Simply add the prolong rule again, saying you can ask for prolong at min 45, then the opposing team HAVE to 5 man push within the next 5 mins.. The FF rule suck, even when on the loosing team.

The prolong rule was worse, because you got these constructed scenarios where the team that demands a push isn't that far behind (in terms of item and hero level) and the other team is forced to push, and end up losing because of it.

It's bad because by forcing a push you are taking away the freedom of action from one team and at times forcing upon them a unfavorable scenario, where they probably would have won the game if they were not forced into a scenario where they had to push at a particular time.

Having the option to forfeit on the other hand, is giving the action to the weaker team to decide on what they want to do with their game. It's the best scenario because you still get a win and the weaker team get the option of deciding the outcome (IE; if they want want to FF or keep trying to turn the game around). It also takes away the power from the single player and empowers the team, which means that a single player can't affect the outcome of the game. You won't see a single player forfeiting and leaving the game, but a single player could force a push under the old rules, which in turn could change the outcome of the entire game.

All in all it's a rule that works for the team and not for the lone player, and the decision to FF is ultimately a team decision.

[windblown snow]

another option possible is, if youre more than 1 guy playing, just split the teams and you can, with 2 people only, not only throw ff to hell if u like, but also help making the teams balanced from start so perhaps none of you would even need ff/prolong ^^